Monday, December 03, 2007

Reply to the Tesco in Stourport comment redux

Another comment requiring a longer entry from Anonymous

I posted in the other thread and im glad you are taking what i said into a bigger article.
My pleasure, it can be a pain trying to reply solely in comments at times. Besides each new entry with the words Tesco and Stourport in it bumps me up Google to compete with the WFA ;-)
If they get their way (tescos) they will not only kill the centre of town because people will NOT walk to and throw from their supermarket into town,i mean why should they if they can get everything under one roof.
Unfortunately they're trying to show that a large supermarket will keep people in Stourport, as I say this may be true except where in Stourport will they be kept? Hence my interest in some sort of survey carried out at the main Kidderminster Tesco site as to how many people shopping there have come from or intend to go into town and the walker/cycler/bus/car percentages. I wonder how many people in Castle Road and that area just go back and forth between house and supermarket?
The plans show a petrol station as well for the site something that has a lot of Severn Road residents incredably worried about,[...]
The petrol station is of interest, some are pointing out we have three already. Except of course we may be losing the Shell to a block of sheltered flats; so may go down to two. While those in Severn Road may be personally concerned with the station I'm interested in how it might affect the Stour. On the plus side it will cut fuel costs, on the down-side it will cut fuel costs (more people using it solely as a station)
[...]hence the item for a road over the Stour to attempt to put in access for the hgvs and petrol lorries to at least keep away from Mitton Street ( the road for that would have come in over the Stour further down closer to where the new houses will be most likely put up)But tescos representives said they couldnt afford (what a sick joke) to put up a traffic bridge.
Hmm I was under the impression that both the pedestrian bridge and road bridge across the Stour were 'sweeteners' from Tesco which, once built, would be adopted by the council; in much the same way Millfields/Mitton Park roads were supposed to be. It might be a throw-in by the owners/developers themselves, but in either case it won't be funded by us - well at least not directly.
We dont NEED a tescos in Stourport,theres nothing really stopping people from going to Kidderminster or just doing thier shopping in Stourport.Hell they can even use the internet and order online.
Bad, bad, bad. I'm not getting personal with you really I'm not, but this is important
  1. We already have a Tesco in Stourport so you can't say we don't need one.
  2. You can't single out Tesco itself. It makes it sound like you'd be happy for a large Sainsbury's or Morrisons or Asda or whatever, but not a Tesco and thus bringing in prejudice
  3. You're making the point that people are leaving Stourport to shop in Kiddy when we want people to shop here
  4. If people order online then the goods need to be stored and then delivered, which is what some suspect that the Stourport Tesco is being lined up to service or at least facilitate.
In other words you're kind of making the case for Tesco.
Thing is that the councils want tescos to foot a large proportion of the bill for the so called relief road which will go no-where for another 20 years.To a non-exsistant bridge.
To an extent I've got to side with the council here, as I've said they can only throw out the application for strict planning reasons. So if they find they can't they might as well get something out of the deal. That said such deals tend to be of benefit to the supplicant as well. You won't get Tesco (or any other large chain) footing the bill for the Millfields Road/Stourport Road hook-up as it's nothing to do with them.
The Conservatives already sold the people out in Lichfield Street with a monstrous development behind them,what the hell do they care about the people of Severn Road or Discovery either.
Not naming names myself, but I do agree the Lichfield Basin development is funky and smells of wealthy holiday homes.
They dont,im sorry but this is how i feel with regards to them.As many in the town feel, tottally let down and frustrated when they go on about asking ppl for input,whats the bloody point they only ignore the people.
Because they have to ask for input on such projects and then report it, they just don't have to listen to or act upon it
If they really support the people then give it to a PUBLIC vote.Im sure for the sake of a 4 mile trip to the BIGGER tesco store, total town gridlock is a thing WORTH AVOIDING.
Again Bad, see you're sending people out of town and we don't want that. As for the public vote see "input" above.
This town already has suffered the worst summer and now winter for a long long time.With the bridge works and all the roads constantly being dug up shop keepers are down a LOT from last year.Dont make it any worse on them by taking even more trade away from the centre of town.
I agree on last year's down-turn. Though as I doubt the bridge has had any serious work done to it since it was built then it probably won't require any more work of that nature for about 100 more years so that was a one-off. Likewise with all the water works going on (if they do it right...) these are all short term losses for a long term gain, and will be finished just in time for a large supermarket to move in and displace all the custom.

Okay so what with meetings and all I think there's a fair few people who are against a Class A supermarket being built on the CoW site, so what should be put there instead; we can't leave it a bare wasteland (well we could, be kinda neat). Come on people give me suggestions.

3 comments:

janutd said...

If the protesters 'blitzed' Stourport why did they only get 600signatures. Why didn't they do it on the friday of the 3 Kings Parade when the town was crowded. Why didn't I get anyone asking me or my boss in the shop where I work. Did they canvass the shopkeepers. Why do they think the town can get any worse than it already is. Shops are closing down all the time and hardly anyone stays in the town to shop. And if we get a larger Tesco will all these 600 who signed the petition not use it. Hardly a concern to Tesco when there are another 20,000who probably will.

Anonymous said...

As i said the past year has been a terrible one for all shops in the town.Not much help when the weather and floods and never ending roadworks continued to keep ppl out of the town.

One couple i saw one day i overheard saying "oh my god this place is like a ghost town" That was when the bridge was closed.Another said "damn this place needs cleaning up doesnt it"

Council members should go out and mingle a bit more,you never know they might for once actually get clued up on the mood of the town lately.

FlipC said...

Again worth a longer reply